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Pentecostal VS Other Religions

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Pentecostal VS Other Religions

Post  Bren on Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:06 pm

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Re: Pentecostal VS Other Religions

Post  SivartM on Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:08 pm

Okay, I wouldn't classify "speaking in tongues" as "works", since technically it's a spiritual gift. The point is, Pentecostals believe that the sign that God uses to show that we are Christians is the gift of "tongues". I believe that's it, if I'm not mistaken. So, saying, "We're saved by faith, not works!" is basically unrelated here.

The problem with the whole tongues thing is that Jesus didn't say, "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you speak in tongues." He said, "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." Christians naturally respond with love to God's grace. The whole of the law is summed up in the commandments, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and strength" and "Love your neighbor as yourself". These are the signs of a true Christian. Also see the Fruits of the Spirit, which are also the signs of the Holy Spirit in a person's life. The Bible clearly says that not everyone will speak in tongues, but every believer should bear the fruits of the spirit. "By their fruits you shall know them". If a person "speaks in tongues" but has not love, their experience means nothing. Ecstatic utterances prove nothing; they could just as easily be the product of human trickery as God's Spirit. The only sure "test" of salvation is whether or not one produces the fruits of the Spirit.

Of course, our works don't save us. But that's a totally different debate anyway, so I'll refrain from starting an off-topic discussion on faith and works.
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